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Mousse or TUbliss for hard enduro events?︱Cross Training Enduro shorty

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We ride deep into wilderness terrain in western north America, so to pack less and worry less, mousse tubes are the way We run worn out plushies with double bead locks and gummy tires Makes plenty of traction😂 Comment from : jacobdewey2003

Been reading tons of these reviews between mousse & tubliss And the main concern I have that isn’t getting mentioned is which is better to dampen the shock and risk of smashing the endless bowling balls in the trail at high speed here in the pacific north west Tubliss allowed great traction but it’s still a soft front tire allowing that CRACK every time you come hot in to a bolder section brThe specific effect of you get from smashing in to things seems understated in these comparisons Comment from : Kermit

I run tubliss here in the hard rocks of Colorado Never had any issues with it and do like the feel of it for my riding and trail videos Comment from : CoolEye Colorado

tubliss and half moussebr youtube/MunkjaY7uWYbr youtube/_az-QaJvDNY Comment from : Matej Kersic

I would like to share an incident / tech note My buddy was running mousse (90 of us do) and he had one of those blue, motion pro, hard plastic rim locks in his front We were changing his tire and discovered that the rim lock had sliced the mousse in half there So personally I would advise the other type of rimlock with the wide black rubber pad brbrHe didn’t really notice anything riding But it happened Comment from : LostInPA - Dad Enduro

only mousses, racing or not - don't have time for BS Comment from : Robson Enduro

Installed tubliss and a new for motoz hybrid arena for the great alipne ride with AMTRA and got a split in the tyre from a rock and kept riding the whole weekend around 200ksbr no problem and plenty of traction no damage to the tubliss and on to my fifth hybrid Comment from : Graeme

I’ve been considering using mouse for a while However, this weekend, during an enduro race, I witnessed a mouse user tore his rear tire I’m not so sure anymore Comment from : Chinglish Enduro

I run tubliss in the rear and mousse in the front Front mousee will last a long time since it is not under power And I like the adjustability of PSI in the rear for differant types of terrain I don't have any sharp rocks here in Central Canada so no worries about slicing a tire Comment from : Josh Podolsky

I tried Tubliss but now use mousses, I wouldn't go back to Tubliss An interesting question would be that if money wasn't an issue what would you use Comment from : UTPP - Up The Pipe Productions

I run tubeless but for competition they aren’t the best option brIf you have a HP tube failure with tubeless they take far too long to repair brI’ve spoken to Chris Birch about this too and he was of the same view, he said he wouldn’t run tubeless 👍 Comment from : NZMarkb

More choice now in mouses, I have used tubes, tubliss & mouses and am a tubliss fan but you do get punctures - the only real fail safe is a mouse, but they can be too hard! Now you can get some enduro mouses equivalent to 5 to 7 psi it’s much better Comment from : S K

I would listen to you guys on a sit down podcast discussing all these topics Comment from : Bryce Jeannot

Mousse Front and Tubliss Rear is what I’ve settled on Better traction with Tubliss and considerably lighter Mousse less likely to fail but quite heavy and can’t run pressure as low I can run my tires longer with Tubliss as the low pressure gives better traction brbrI had Tubliss front and still dinged rim and multiple flats…brbrFlat on rear with Tubliss you can still ride out Comment from : Leroy Williams

Any reason Enduro bikes don’t come with tubeless rims like Trials bikes?brI guess mousses would still be the pro choice to save worrying about punctures but for the rest of us it would beat tubes or Tubliss Comment from : Jon

Its just a better feeling to have the certainty of no issues with mousse on longer rides and/or in competition and you have no tools for tyre repair you have to carry brI have used tubes, tubliss and mousse over many years and still use all All systems have revealed points, I hate Comment from : Hacht Enduro

Rode full Romaniacs on Lucioli rear and loved it Too heavy for the front for my liking (big inertia not easy to turn) to race it so I stay with mousse in front for racing Comment from : Mikhail

I've raced several hard enduros (ameture level) and had no problems with Tubliss It's recommended to change the high pressure tube every year, although you probably wouldn't have any issues running it for two years They are like $12 so not a huge expense I regularly run down to 2 PSI cold (usually comes to 3-4 while riding) with no issues Punctures do happen when riding at any speed and hitting rocks at that pressure but I've had really good luck running Stan's Race sealant with the small punctures and tears that sometimes come along with this This sealant cannot be added through the valve core, but seems to seal really well and does not seem to be drying out fast either, I've had 8 oz in a tire for close to 9 months now and it's still holding up well So I think Tubliss can be very reliable, just not quite as reliable as mousses Another big mistake people make with tubliss is tightening the high pressure valve stem nut to the rim, causing high pressure tube tears Comment from : Chris Westerhoff

Mousses are the only choice that lets you empty all the tire repair crap out of your pack That alone is worth it Here in the US dessert southwest between the cactus, rocks and the old barb wire, they are a wise choice I think the learning curve is steep though especially if you are always sampling tires, always trying to figure out which size/ brand mousse at $130 a pop In my case, Michelin tires, Michelin mousse, drilled out in the rear for a 6-8 lb feel Comment from : D Del

I still just run heavy duty tubes If I get a flat I just ride back to the truck but It’s been many years since that has happened and it’s just all hard enduro riding Ive seen more tubliss go flat than tubes Maybe new nitro mousse might be good to try if it can mimic low pressure well enough Comment from : Hawaiidirtrider

I use both Both are brilliant and Tubliss advantage is the pressure can be changed while riding/racing I use mousse front and Tubliss here Tubliss is not a corporation LOL It is NUETECH Comment from : steve da man

And fucioli? Comment from : Vik2015 Vik

Was this part of a podcast? What podcast? Comment from : jaycarva

One thing I would add is it really depends on the terrain you’re riding as well I did a race a few months ago and the terrain contained a lot of really sharp rocks, and tens of riders every day came with cut rear tires and punctures with Tubliss That’s especially if you ride super soft tires in places like that Comment from : KRANKiT

I understand that low air pressure in the back tire helps traction What is the benefits of low air in the front? Comment from : Brian LaFollette

I like to run solid rubber tires Never get a flat but my bones and joints are still aching 😂brbrFor racing I can see how mousse bibs are the better choice Though, I will be switching from tubes to Tubliss on my next tire change Comment from : Dirt Bikes & Ice Hockey

This was a livestream from a few years ago comparing tubes, tubliss, mousses and air balls It’s fairly long but there’s some decent information throughout youtube/4bFYD3jwSNk Comment from : Fynn825

Pros: Mousses brAmateur: tubliss brI love Tubliss ☝🏻brChears from Argentina 🇦🇷 Comment from : tincho1979

I use 4mm thick tubes covered in rubber grease at 25-45psi depending on conditions, I really only ride tech and have only had one flat in the last 10 years with this setup, however I'm not an aggressive rider and don't do fast/big commitment movesbrIf you too run thick tubes I'd suggest giving rubber grease a go, makes a huge difference in letting the tire conform to stuff Comment from : chris

To me the perk to tubliss over a mousse is the ability to run a harder, long lasting tire and still have gripbrAt the pro level it's all mousses and super soft tires that only last a day or two, trail riders cant afford that Comment from : NSEric 123

Mousses are my go to If you’re 30 miles in on a 70 mile ride, getting a flat is a pain in the… watched tubliss fail on my husbands bike due to riding some gnarly and puncturing tires in a way that they can’t be repaired brbrIn any kind of race, I’d use mousse But are a pain to install! For my bitty arms at least Comment from : Shannon’s Chimkens

Undersized mousse with Tubliss is the way to go in the rear I believe Nutech is working on their own system, but otherwise get an undersized soft mousse, trim the inside of the mousse by 3/4, install inside a standard tubliss setup So you get a low pressure but flat proof setup that will let you run more delicate carcass tires like the IBEX or Michelins Comment from : Infidel Mat

I thought I would try the tubliss system it does seem to work pretty good that is once I get it installed but man I'm no good at mounting these things the first bead on the tire no sweat I don't even need tools the tire just falls on but once I install the tubliss I can't seem to collapse it enough get the tire into the center dish to pull up enough rubber to finish spooning the tire on even when I use the aid of clamps to smash the thing flat (which does make a difference ) but even with good tire irons I end up damaging that last tire bead quite a bit not to mention the valve stems always seem to get a little caddy wonked and lose their time a little bit once the tire finally goes on from what I see pretty much stuck with however they settle in the real bummer is the second time I ventured out on it I hit a big rock hiding under some leaves that the road grader man pulled out of the ditch and it pinched the bladder and I had to ride home on a flat I had 110 lb in the bladder and 8 lb in the tire what's your secret sauce formula to mounting these things Barry ?! Comment from : Mark C De Young

Most of us mere mortals won't use neither Mousse or TUbliss, because we ride our bikes at highway speeds to get to our off-road destinations Not saying it can't be done, but not being DOT rated, it may not be wise doing so That coupled with the fact they're pricey and complicated to install, and it's recommended you replace both systems with every new tire it's Heavy duty tubes and rim-locks for me Comment from : MOEMUGGY

Love the tubless system allso I've been running it for around five years now And I can't see myself changing Comment from : Mark Xuereb

yo is a 2001 wr250f good for enduro and what should I do to make it better Comment from : enduro weeb leban

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