Westmoreland: The General Who Lost Vietnam

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Vietnam went the wrong way when it left its professional phase and entered its careerist phase One Army general said "Too many brigade and battaion commanders were simply trying to punch their tickers instead of actually lead" Anthony Herbert wrote "There's nothing like a chestful of ribbons and the old war record when the prnotion board meets"
Comment from : @robertblake9892

"Population centered Counterinsurgency" did not work in Iraq and Afghanistan
Comment from : @WesternOutpostDonVonFilms

The US military hardly ever lost a battle and it was the civilian leaders that eventually pulled them out Should the blame not rather go to the political leadership?
Comment from : @WesternOutpostDonVonFilms

He never mention the man who kept promoting Westmoreland throughout his career, Gen Maxwell Taylor
Comment from : @Idkwhatsupwithyou

SUMMARYbr0:00 - 1:30 Introductionbr1:31 - 30:00 Westmoreland was incompetentbr30:01 - 1:00:00 Westmoreland was a jerkbr1:00:01 - 1:28:00 Westmoreland lost the war br1:28:01 - End Questions and Answers about how terrible Westmoreland is
Comment from : @cattnipp

One thing that is hard to wrap your head around is that we could lose Modern warfare against the poor Vietcong Third world
Comment from : @Cat-bg2ge

I couldn't tolerate an Aussie for one day
Comment from : @Cat-bg2ge

the only reason is it was their country you stupid
Comment from : @timtran5420

Checked out his book "Westmoreland" from the library today Reading it now
Comment from : @inamorata966

Westy shudda been a Used Car Salesman instead of being responsible for so many of his troops killed because of his gross incompetence and inability to tell the truth and gaslight his Superiors
Comment from : @SammyNeedsAnAlibi

Westmorland was right to try to keep women out of the USMA
Comment from : @dj2068

With all the minus, the USA and South VN would NOT fail if the politicians know how to control the communist tricks Soviet andChina helped them to the maximum, US helped the SouthVN as a containment war, not as a necessary war Moreover the communistmarxists were strong in all Europe and US cities, their propaganda was excellent, USA was viewed as monsters, and helas intellectuals like Sartre, Chomsky, Russell…hated USA and the capitalist syst There were about 1 mil marxists inside US according to Hoover, quoted by ACoulter How could we win when some ugly actresses came toHanoi to praise the communists ?
Comment from : @halonglvv

I really appreciate your dedication to this topic
Comment from : @gopherstate777

The Vietnam War was lost when JFK gave the green light for the coup against President Diem
Comment from : @davidwell686

Why you don't put an Artillery guy in charge of a countet insurgencyhe ballsed it up sugar coat it how yiu want ✌️
Comment from : @brianford8493

General Westmoreland should have been fired This reminds me of the book The Generals by Thomas E Ricks Failure to fire generals after world War II has costs the US military greatly
Comment from : @wayweh

Wow!
Comment from : @fostercathead

A CIA report from January 1968 made it clear that North Vietnam had a population of 18 million and adequate manpower reserves to fight a long war Westmoreland must have known this So why did he think a war of attrition would work?
Comment from : @JoeHale-q7u

Westmoreland, the Herr General, who obfuscated and covered up the My Lai massacre, served the United States military industrial complex and his masters in the CIA All whilst promoting the BS Communist threat domino lie
Comment from : @gregchijoff9959

I listened to this at fast speed and it was still slow
Comment from : @ThinkTwice2222

Kissinger, LBJ and Cronkite lost the War in Vietnam
Comment from : @markgarrett3647

Thank God he didn't become President!!!
Comment from : @kennethcollins1529

This is incredibly fascinating stuff and explains a lot of why the actions of the US military in Vietnam seemed so pointless and ridiculous
Comment from : @jupitermoongauge4055

No fan of Westmoreland herebut shift your targets to higher upsDulles, Eisenhower, JFK, LBJ, McNamaraall share the blameespecially the Democrat administrationsfrom a Navy Vietnam Vet
Comment from : @jameshimes3657

It was a sad history for all of us! My father was a combat commander under General Vangpao from 1969 to 1972 American left Vietnam and the communist also took over Laos in 1975 The Vietnam War affected everyone of us! Thank to all Americans who served!
Comment from : @siabvaj1821

No and I mean no American General would or could win the VietVietnam war
Comment from : @crewshaw2122

If— brBY RUDYARD KIPLINGbr(‘Brother Square-Toes’—Rewards and Fairies)brIf you can keep your head when all about you br Are losing theirs and blaming it on you, brIf you can trust yourself when all men doubt you,br But make allowance for their doubting too; brIf you can wait and not be tired by waiting,br Or being lied about, don’t deal in lies,brOr being hated, don’t give way to hating,br And yet don’t look too good, nor talk too wise:brbrIf you can dream—and not make dreams your master; br If you can think—and not make thoughts your aim; brIf you can meet with Triumph and Disasterbr And treat those two impostors just the same; brIf you can bear to hear the truth you’ve spokenbr Twisted by knaves to make a trap for fools,brOr watch the things you gave your life to, broken,br And stoop and build ’em up with worn-out tools:brbrIf you can make one heap of all your winningsbr And risk it on one turn of pitch-and-toss,brAnd lose, and start again at your beginningsbr And never breathe a word about your loss;brIf you can force your heart and nerve and sinewbr To serve your turn long after they are gone, brAnd so hold on when there is nothing in youbr Except the Will which says to them: ‘Hold on!’brbrIf you can talk with crowds and keep your virtue, br Or walk with Kings—nor lose the common touch,brIf neither foes nor loving friends can hurt you,br If all men count with you, but none too much;brIf you can fill the unforgiving minutebr With sixty seconds’ worth of distance run, brYours is the Earth and everything that’s in it, br And—which is more—you’ll be a Man, my son!
Comment from : @Magpies1314

Westmoreland was a piece of trash, both as a general and as a human being Should we blame Westmoreland for being the person he was or should we blame the people who put him in command of an entire war? The answer is yes
Comment from : @ianshaver8954

So many idiotic comments
Comment from : @Magpies1314

Some generals don't remember the most important lesson of the Battle of Cannae: The Romans won the war
Comment from : @DerekB99

Vietnam war very immoral war since even before begun
Comment from : @hlwanmoe1981

Need warriors leading the fight, not administrators
Comment from : @HarryJensen-kr4qz

Westmoreland was DEFINITELY not well thought of by the Msrine Corp This includes zgeneral zKrulak and zgeneral Lew WaltbrHe had NO understanding of the political aspect of the zviet war but thought he could creste and use a army in the image of the WW2 European arrrmy practicing unlimited war and use it effectively in a totally different environment politically socially geographically etcbrBasically at the end of the day he repeated most of the mistakes of the French
Comment from : @JoeFreeman-y2d

As time rolled onward through the late 80’s I learned to despise Westmorland and definitely LBJbrThey had no compassion or care for the youths of America Westmorland was darkly ego driven and in it for the stripes and respect with a warped mindset to rule the country with his iron fistbrI lost many friends to his misguided judgment
Comment from : @My2ndtimearound

I appreciate this in furtherance of my understanding of the circumstances surrounding my father's career Class of 1950 USMA he served in the Air Force with deployments to Korea and Vietnam Vietnam for a year at about 1970 Dad retired in 1975 I never ascertained his thoughts about this war I know that he liked to fly, loved his wife and family, and had an abiding desire to help other people
Comment from : @craighoover1495

How smart do I have to be to realize how stupid i am?
Comment from : @FritsKist

It has been truly said that attrition is the strategy of no strategy
Comment from : @asmodeus0454

Knowing how LONG the Vietcong were able to persist and resist against the French, and their intimate knowledge of the terrain that was being fought on, is a shocking example of his narcissistic and careerist objectives In addition, McNamara had the same personality defects!brbrYou really went easy on him and the administration
Comment from : @Roberta-my7qr

We didn't loose in Vietnam We had no business being there & LBJ knew that early We lost the will to fight a pointless war Unfortunately Bush Jr & Cheney never learned that lesson years later 🙄
Comment from : @theodorejay1046

Westmoreland Cannon Cocker in WW 2 Never lead a small Infantry unit his whole life In charge of a HUGE land Battlefield LBJ racist President his whole life Complicit in the death of JFK MacNamara drafted mentally challenged men as meat for the grinder Many of us fought and died in the stinking red mud of Vietnam Shunned by a country when it ended Silent to the Sacrifice I remember oh to well I got there in 69 when I was 17 left when I was 20 I fought that War more years in my dreams than in reality E troop 17th Cav Armor Scouts 173rd Abn Bgd 2/503 From An Khe to LZ English WE FIGHT FROM HERE
Comment from : @williamjavier1653

Westmorland’s focus on technocratic targets such as body counts would have meshed well with McNamara’s approach, based on his history as a business manager
Comment from : @pauljenkins6877

A murderer
Comment from : @williamconneely1734

Turns out MacNamara and the other wiz kids were the low intelligent "troops"
Comment from : @arnenelson4495

Once Johnson decided not to let our military cut the supply line of the NVA & forbade the invasion of the North, the war was not winnable Stonewall Jackson would have lost in Vietnam!
Comment from : @camovets5719

Vietnam 66-67 I knew we couldn’t win the war by the end of 66 But I kept my mouth shut as long as I was in the service Poor leadership was the problem
Comment from : @charlestuma2336

God Bless You All God Protect America & ISRAEL Amen
Comment from : @S62bhas

wake up peeps, it wasn't a war, it was a pacification mission, westmoreland was just a soldier sent there by "wise men" from washington, following orders from washington and had heavy restrictionsbr all he said to media (his lies) was exactly what wise men wanted him to say, act he different he would be immediately replacedbrlbj new everything make no doubt about it, same for jfk and nixonbrlook on any captured vc or nva troops - zombies, god knows what uncle ho pumped in them, they all were on suicide mission all 30 years of conflict, you can't pacify a horde of zombiesbrto win there north vietnam had to be nuked and it's not westmoreland's fault it didn't happen
Comment from : @owieri

must have been a great General that would have fit perfectly to the OKH in his actions and thinking
Comment from : @typxxilps

What Baloney LBJ "lost" the VN war because he had no intention of winning it In his own words he "only wanted to make a showing" These words are on the record and easily looked up VN Vet '68-'69'
Comment from : @thomaswayneward

Sad
Comment from : @ronzomac6246

Blaming it on Westy ? 10,000 DAYS was a short war for CHARLIEthe WH lost the war , not those whom answered the call and carried the STICK , including Westy , a tortured man wearing a cheap Sears Hearing Bone Jacket the last I seen of him , trying to grin and bear it and explain a clusterfcUK beyond his control
Comment from : @jafo766

Harold Johnson was a remarkable officer He was captured in the Philippines in 1942 and overcame three years in captivity to continue in the Army, provided excellent service in Korea, and rose to USACOS
Comment from : @jayfelsberg1931

Our getting involved in Vietnam in the first instance was our "STUPID" mistake just like succession was the fundamental mistake of the Confederate south Of course we typically snowballed our mistakes from there And Westmoreland applied his "military intelligence" (an obvious oxymoron) We all rightly consider Vietnam one of several genocidal wars we wrongly engaged For all our military superiority we got beat by kids on bicycles who were however fighting for their country!!! Only a black scar ribbon is deserved
Comment from : @LJK77777

Westmoreland was a mentally ill hillbilly "The Oriental may not value Life in the same way as we do" STFU If you set out to arrange a more deranged formulation you'd have a hard time topping that puke Look up Nick Turse
Comment from : @omegapointil5741

Not much you can do with McNamara's 100,000
Comment from : @HempKnight2112

Sickening Peter Principle at work LBJ was another of our many failed leaders, just like Truman, who wouldn’t allow MacArthur to win the Korean War (read his memoir) This talk peters out with resignation instead of indignation LBJ probably recognized in Westmoreland a kindred spirit I served in Vietnam between OCT 69 - AUG 71 with Hq, 4th PSYOP GROUP, US ARMY, VIETNAM
Comment from : @jmwSeattle

Westmoreland or Eastlessland?
Comment from : @nickf7524

It was US politicians that made the policies that lost the Vietnam war Westmoreland was the man who enforced those policies in Vietnam He was willing to follow directions from the politicians Had US politicians really wanted to win the war they could have found a better leader for the forces in Vietnam The war was lost because the US forces could not invade North Vietnam and stop the supply of men and weapons from the North Invading North Vietnam would have risked war with China As happened in Korea China would not accept US bases on its border
Comment from : @terminusest5902

General Westmoreland didn't lose Vietnam It was lost before it started Our gov't starts a war without any intention of winning American involvement was started by liberals that think only of their finances and welfare
Comment from : @davidmatthews4217

He had help youtube/_J2VwFDV4-g
Comment from : @thomaslinton1001

If Donald Trump had been President during the Viet Nam conflict, the glorious USA would have won
Comment from : @BillMorganChannel

So he was watching most of the time He wasn't a grunt that's for sure damn sure He lost Vietnam because he was too worried about his legacy and he didn't know how to command
Comment from : @Laurenavan

C'mon the viet cong could not do that much had they to come in US and tried to prop up a communist regime High time to realized in modern era, its possible to subdue other in their homeland for a while, but imposing foreign rule is impossible
Comment from : @zodinthara6318

In short, he was better in playing soldier in peacetime than being real soldier in the field
Comment from : @zodinthara6318

The Vietnam War was a Justified War that was Fought Well in the shadow of the larger Cold War with the Sovietsbr youtube/7fGV9uuZq8E
Comment from : @tsafa

the us couldn't win the vietnam war no matter who was in charge or what strategy was employedand the intelligence services knew it early on it's fair to call out the leaders who failed miserably, but this was an unwinnable war
Comment from : @janarchy9

If the US military was unleashed we could have killed 90 of the Vietnamese as opposed to the mere 15 We could have dropped a 100 megatons of bombs instead of the pityingly small 10 megatons We were only allowed to destroy 10 of Vietnam's farmland, if only we had destroyed 90 we could have had total victory as we did against the Seminoles and so many other savage terrorists in fulfillment of our Manifest Destiny
Comment from : @thetombaxter

I think our lecturer almost said "level of incompetence"
Comment from : @johnries5593

The exchange with Sen Hollings (admittedly a savvy politician) does demonstrate how politically clueless Westmoreland was But certainly LBJ was a smart enough politician that he ought to have known that Westmoreland was a political liability
Comment from : @johnries5593

I'm proud to have served Westmoreland I was in Vietnam in 1967-68 Vietnam was a completely different kind of war, destroyed him and the countries involved, especially Laos, Cambodia, and the southern part of Vietnam
Comment from : @vonstroff3766

My gosh, couldn't we have found an out of work actor to read this manuscript? This man seems to be a competent historian but he is a miserable presenter I feel sorry for those present for this talk who couldn't simply move on to the next YouTube video
Comment from : @SergeantPee

Geopolitically speaking, drugging warmongers as dangerous mental patients might be less harmful than involving people in obsolete war plans
Comment from : @brianmackey3949

You cant fight half a war brEither 100 or not at allbrMilitary/ Industrial Complex brThey just love war or police actions Rifles, Jets, Bombs, Bullets,Aircraft Carriers, Smart bombs, Dumb bombs, somebody has to produce these things so the more you fight battles the more stuff you use STUFF means thousands of little things that when you put them together make big money Peace is not the aim of STUFF Stuff needs war Peace is not profitable
Comment from : @brpitrepeters7983

Bush should be in prison too And Trump? What a fucking joke
Comment from : @ericaallispn8392

Bb
Comment from : @jimwaggoner9306

I wasn't in Vietnam but my impression was it was fucked look at german army people judged by there actions and gain promotion by there actions American army is the opposite based on who you know and your college degree, I find it bizarre that even now the americans don't get it
Comment from : @oldguy8177able

"Westmoreland" was an "empty suit"!!! As a Marine there during the "Tet" offensive 1968, any of our front line NCO"s could have formulated better tactics!!! He was never a leader and failed to gain our confidence, if anything he was distant and aloof, seemed more a bureaucrat for cut and run "Johnson", I would never want him as a platoon sergeant!!!!!
Comment from : @danielwood6930

I didn’t serve in Vietnam and I believe the veterans were treated awfully as was the handling of the war
Comment from : @markashcroft465

with approval for operations 1st from DC (&leaks to the north from DC) i'd be surprised if any general would win,
Comment from : @me7558

in many ways the whole officer corp was rotten to the corpwhat was the answer for a bad officer? the Army refused to punish bad officers , so they only made them serve 6 months of combat duty; the rest of their time they were reassigned to so e other non combat office jobthat was to begin withbrIn comparison, during WW 2 G
Comment from : @frod043

Famous sub rosa story in Washington When Ed Applewhite was a comptroller of the CIA in the mid-sixties, his main job was giving MacNamara his daily briefing on "the numbers" that MacNamara had thought from his Ford days were the foundation for everything At one point Ed famously asked "Sir, may I make a personal comment?"br"Hunh, Yunh? Gmph" or equivalent puzzled assent from Macnamarabr"Well, sir, I don't think those numbers mean what they seem to mean"brThat was Ed's last day of briefing Macnamarabr(Applewhite went on to other, distinguished, careers of service, on some occasions displaying extreme personal bravery A magnificent man, and a good friend Serving his country well, even in retirement, right up to 2004, the last time I saw him)
Comment from : @TheDavidlloydjones

Today, you can walk down Massage St in Hochiminh City (Saigon) and fulfill your every carnal desire It is as Westernized as any Asian country (from the streets anyway) Be careful drinking the water, though Agent Orange, like most things poisonous to humans, takes a long time to degrade
Comment from : @tvs3497

What a devastating critique! Wow, no prisoners taken here! One gets the feeling Mr Sorely had a personal grudge against Westmoreland, presumably due to his own experiences in the war and I dare say over the loss of friends and colleagues who he probably felt died because of the Military and Political incompetence of those who should have known better; and for what? Not a great deal of thought given to the implication of Truman's doctrine and how to implement it as a political answer to Communism Rather a gung ho policy approach of military attrition which would have been at home in WW1!
Comment from : @anthonybrownhovelt

This video and all the comments and all the veterans who fough the war amazingly miss the point after all these years The vietnam war was a war that was planned to last 10 years and 57000 dead Those estimates were made in the late 50s Ho ch min was given his weapons by the USA in 1945 This was a war they(cia) were cooking for more than 15 years They needed and wanted the war dollars 600 billion in 60s dollars Trillions today Killed kennedy to make sure usa went to war Westmorelands failures ar meaningless No matter who was commander there was gonna be a 10 year war They handcuffed the military on purpose
Comment from : @absolutedevelopment1740