Ask GN 92: What Kills CPUs - Heat or Voltage? Used Mining GPUs Safe?

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YouTube, did you send me this because of recent news for AMD?
Comment from : orangeapples

I'd definitely recommend using a NAS over a lot of SATA connected drives within the PC case Anything you need regular and high speed access to should be on a secondary nvme, like games etc, but long term high capacity storage can usually tolerate the 1 gbps or 10 gbps transfer speeds, and it's way more convenient than having to buy a big case just for drives
Comment from : Lambda Function

Most of the used computer parts aren't cheap enough to warrant buying used anywaybrbrWhy save 10 for a substantially bigger risk of it not lasting
Comment from : Unbound

I had a odd phenomenon to, when i was overclocking my ryzen 5 2600 on Prime95 my CPU didn't crash but when i stress test with OCCT in 40 seconds the CPU crash
Comment from : Pedro Gonçalves

Mining treats these things as "consumables" It's like, Do you want to buy a thrown out printer cartridge in the hopes of it serving you well for years to come? At laughably low prices, sure
Comment from : K Gergő

And that's why I undervolt the hell out of my processors My 5900x is running 41Ghz on all 12 cores at 0905v I run at 28 degrees ambient and 53C under heavy load
Comment from : Fantasys Keep

Steve is absolutely right about capacitors being the limiting factor in buying used video cards If they are the standard electrolytic type, they are very vulnerable to wearing out with 24/7 operation, especially if they aren't getting good airflow (like they are next to a big, hot heatsink)
Comment from : Magnulus76

9:36 "80 is resonable" im already panicking when my cpu gets above 65 degrees (i5 6600k OC 42Ghz)
Comment from : Methus

lian li full tower case
Comment from : Kyle Palmer

ive been using 15v on my 10900k for like 15 years oof
Comment from : Slaycrazed

Can you at some point cover the interdependence of the CPU, memory, the GPU, VRAM, and the PCI bus speed? I would like to understand how to best match the components in order to eliminate bottlenecks I know that if not matched, or not accounted for, that one component may have to ‘wait’ on another and this can slow the processes down It would be interesting to the interdependence of the components Thanks!
Comment from : Barry Chickini

Steve’s answer on buying used mining gpu’s still relevant today they could cut that out and just rerelease…
Comment from : hster

11:42 I would not buy a used GPU, period The fact that those Mining GPU's run 24/7 is already enough reason to not buy one Especially when, like right now, they try to get new MSRP prices out of it I am so not buying a GPU at new MSRP price, even if the GPU market is so crazy fucked up right now
Comment from : Bizarro

#AskGN What internal organ from my body is the safest to remove and sell so I can afford a 3080?
Comment from : No No

Whaaa! I didn't know you rode mtb!
Comment from : SwanOfLove

Exactly 105Celcius is really safe
Comment from : lolNje oglondaj mejej plejlisty to je nie sluhalne

No facts here
Comment from : DJ007 J

Cpu are made to resist 110c 120c max but stable and long life on 70/80c but voltage/electricity is made degradation on the hardware
Comment from : cristian notti

The cautious reading predictably instruct because tower cosmetically please vice a worried feeling near, shut john
Comment from : Danny m

I've definitely gotten some really good used tech deals Just make sure to use something like ebay and check seller rating Most private sellers will have 100 positive feedback ratings over dozens or more sales
Comment from : dogboy0912

more concerned about my wallet as it always dies first
Comment from : Gerard

i bought a gtx 1080 about 2 years ago it was a mining card and iv had no issues what so ever been strong since i got it and its actually a mad good overclocking card
Comment from : sandy1234853

Lots of reviews test CPUs via rendering and workloads but a lot of that is offloaded to the GPU, when offloading work to the GPU does the CPU make any difference at all? if so how much?
Comment from : Rory

Bought a mining sapphire rx580 8GB for 110$ It didn't work and I contacted the seller and he was really understanding and exchanged it for another one, which has been going strong for a year now
Comment from : edge21str

Voltage doesn't kill, amperage does Voltage is just a potential Heat is I squared R Resistance doesn't change but current increases increase heat exponentially
Comment from : Stephen Durnan

My 8 year old AMD 7950 has spent at least 3 years full time mining, rest of the time gaming Only the fans failed However the PCB is bent down I'd personally not trust a stranger to sell me any GPU, they are so expensive
Comment from : Wheelie Perd

Its kind of switched Older chips could take more voltages and it was heat that was the killer Nowadays with lower Nm Its voltage thats killing chips more than temperatures Todays cpu's typically run at higher temperatures
Comment from : Lee Kirkman

It is absolutely heat that kills CPUs For every 10 degrees centigrade, you lower the life of a semiconductor by 50 This is known and established research You don't have to burn CPUs to figure it out
Comment from : Spencer

amperage and heat
Comment from : Durolith

Steve, I'm contacting you from the future, you'll be very pleased to know that your hair is still luscious and fully brown I have to ask though What will you do when it starts to grey? I'd suggest dyeing it, otherwise you will look like a homeless Santa, it's not a good luck Fuck nature, you can't keep snapping underwear straps with grey hair bro GL HF
Comment from : nanogeekpro2

103m fuck yah🤘
Comment from : rnGeezus

Have you ever ridden Vancouver Island I know that Whistler is world renowned, but there are some decent downhills here as well Mt Washington can be good during the summer Also have you done any Caving before I would love to take you for a tour of Horne Lake Caves next time you are up in Canada (If human malware ever ceases) I used to work there as a guide, and know of a couple other caves in the area Plus Horne Lake is a beautiful area to bike around
Comment from : Off-Grid Everything

4:29 how do you even get to 150C? 🤔
Comment from : Kasimir den Hertog

so my 3600x at 42 126 volts will be good
Comment from : lance townsend

Does that mean if you can get a higher clock without higher voltages and sufficient cooling, you won't degrade the CPU?
Comment from : Hoseiko

Me watching this video nearly a year later: bhears the name of a manufacturer recommended for full tower cases/bbrMe: blooks up said manufacturer/bbrWikipedia: "defunct" 😑
Comment from : Olivyay

Man this video was perfect for me Thanks for making these and everyone who asked questions
Comment from : Sammy K

Intel will struggle even if they are number one, that's how greedy they are when it comes to implementing new technologies Luckily AMD is here to help everyone, showing that Intel didn't really made big investments in R&D for a new line of products Intel stood comfortably in their seat for too many years milking the cow dry Competition rules!
Comment from : WOT replays

TJ MAX?! Temperature junction? Man What in the world are you talkin' about ? lol (the lingo is deep)
Comment from : Yitzhakk

Wow thx for the info So basically my acer is fine when i have no ac at the place im staying currently and it reaches 90 degrees?
Comment from : László Dajka

Can you please tell me the plugin/generator you us for the chapters and running time? It's extremely useful
Comment from : Jiří Fiala

can you tell me more about memory vram weaker? what is it? what cause it? because I overclocked my vram for daily use, do I have to concern about it? I've heard people talk about it now you mention it 14:37 I searched it on google nothing found related to it
Comment from : HaaS-19

I just made my voltage on my pc too low and now it won’t turn on I’m scared I won’t be able to fix it
Comment from : Bobby Mcgowan

i have a 2600x at 14 volts it runs fine
Comment from : alum

Excellent discussion of used mining Cards
Comment from : TechFan

It is 2020 and Intel is still struggling with 10nm
Comment from : snowhawk

How does this guy know all of this stuff Jesus
Comment from : DG

Is it okay to buy used tables that were used to hold mining rigs
Comment from : Llama

@george lambros: if money ain't an issue than i can recommend thermaltake p3 or higher (with arm-wallmount if u want it flexible - but in any case a wallmount that's capable of at least 15, better 20kg), a NAS for your harddrives and in case of blueray drives external cases via USB (fe icy box) airflow shouldnt be a problem anymore and as long as you dont take a premade NAS solution like the WD ones i'd say u will enjoy itbrps: not saying WD is bad, but their main strength lies in the manufactoring of HDD and SSD, not hardware/software for making them safely accessable in networks
Comment from : Hugin Phosphor

Mined GPU? Would you buy something new (not enought reviews, marketlife) that might have a flaw (and in the worst case gets warranty-replaced with the same flawed model almost endlessly - rly happnd to me) or save money and buy something from someone who has for few years done a longtime stress/quality check (mining) for a GPU which has survived all of it (some didn't but it was the miners problem) I never forget my "brandnew" laptop which nvidia GPU solder melted after 25years Some months after warranty exipired Search for cooking GPU s a whole batch of nvidia products had bad solder quality and/or temperature problems Seriously consider getting used good and still working tek Have no problems w 1080Ti bought used (mined 3y) have been working for 2 years perfectly for me
Comment from : Ex Ow

I have a watercooled ryzen 1700x, 40gb ram, gtx 1060 and 1070 2tb 5700rmp storeage drive, 320gb ssd c drive, 180gb and 80gb ssds and another 1tb drive Cost < $1000 Used is good
Comment from : cdreid99999

who the hell runs 2 stress test programs at the same time what kind of crazy person was that
Comment from : Pc Master Wraith

Buy an used GPU if it is really cheap and if it have at least a month of warranty to make tests and examining the circuit board and components
Comment from : Héctor J Román P

I have never killed a CPU and I've overclocked the hell out of them since the Pentium 3 on They always have thermal throttled or crashed before getting damaged - I guess AMD back in the day would thermal to burning up, but I've never overclocked the old AMD Processors
Comment from : BikerBry

Nice videos man! <3
Comment from : borny hitch

RIP CaseLabs :C
Comment from : ShroudedWolf51

Linus tech tips did a review on gaming mice latency
Comment from : Keith Jones

as far as used gpus go I would like to weigh in I build a lot of used systems and resell them Usually I buy a used gpu for these and also they are usually mining cards I buy So far I am at 38 systems built the year of 2019 As of right now I have only replaced one gpu from these systems I built Usually I try to stick around the 175-200$ price tag per gpu and I have only had to replace one 1070 However I have used gtx 1060 6 gigs and 570s and 580s I know that this is anecdotal evidence but take it as you will Also keep in mind that this is still kinda early in the year
Comment from : Simple Ton

GN please can you place the paper roll hanging at your tool wall properly (facing forward) my OCD killing me and you will be more efficient, thanksbrbrbr:D
Comment from : marijhorn

I bought 2 Gigabyte RX 570 from 8Gb to 80 usd each a few months ago, they were mining cards and they have worked very well for me
Comment from : heclanet

A lot of PC guys are into bikes, yet no bike guys are into PC (because they use Mac trash, I mean books)
Comment from : Jeremy Hansen

Very good content only the audio is low
Comment from : Sascomer Random

I mined for a year with a few cards, two of which I gave to some friends who still use them for mining An EVGA GTX 1060 3GB SC2 and an EVGA GTX 1060 6GB SC2 I ran 120 power target, very aggressive fan curves, temp target at 80C with each card OC'd as high as it could be stable with the 3GB OC'd a lot higher to 2GHz and the 6GB at 19GHz They stayed at 80C 24/7 with fans on full for a full year with maybe two heat cyclesbrbrbrAfter all that "abuse" I gave them to some friends for bdays who still use and OC them today without problems
Comment from : Wo1fie

Try the areocool predictor ii cheap great full tower case with alot of features , space and air flow personal favorite GL
Comment from : Rashed Salah

The format of these videos are amazing Major kudos the the editors
Comment from : Nathan NotImportant

900D ftw, im rocking so much stuff in that bad boy including 15 x 140mm fans lol
Comment from : Ben

Surely though a CPU's power requirement is set, so lowering the voltage will increase the current draw which will increase temperatures
Comment from : Ed5557

is the oscilloscope always on in background? ;)brplease give it at break!
Comment from : SunWalker

Who has a 19th anniversary giveaway? Did someone inside EVGA not think they'd make it to 20?
Comment from : jzero4813

CaseLabs was driven out of business by the new tariffs They're gone
Comment from : syberghost

Corsair 780T full tower Inexpensive, looks great, and has excellent air flow
Comment from : W A T E R

This channel is amazing
Comment from : Manuel Besada

I once had an optical mouse that wouldn't work on any surface or at least not well, but seemed to work fine on a laminated book That was the only surface it worked well on I know it's weird Anyway some mice are objectively bad
Comment from : Eric Mollison

you can test mouse sensor accuracy and click accuracy/speed other than that it really is what feels good in your hand
Comment from : Maurice H

just a few tips for buying used hardwarebrTry to have some common sense a 70 bucks 1060 does not exist for examplebrReputation can be boughtbrtry to avoid common marketplaces (dedicated enthusiast forums often haven buy/sell sections and scammers get weeded out more easy)
Comment from : Maurice H

Be sure to click the "Close" message button concerning "Cookies" at 0:38
Comment from : Lissa Menna

Do not buy used video cards, if you do make sure you buy from a business or website that is trusted and offers some kind of warranty Realistically buy a new card not a used one
Comment from : RazielTheLost

So down to earth Love this guy
Comment from : Death Song

I propose we get started on the years and years of research it would take to get that answer on the voltage killer, because that's what everyone's been saying for years and years Great answer though😀
Comment from : Gordon Freeman

Fock 20 sec into video and you already flipped your hair JUST CUT IT OFF IF ITS IN YOUR WAY! Thumbs down
Comment from : Gil Monreal

The answer is heat for you simple minded people
Comment from : Spicytoastysalami

I have one question Is it bad if my GPU is like 5 degrees cooler than one of my core CPU's?
Comment from : Sergio Ocadiz

I ran a i7-990x at around 85c and 154v at 498 GHz and doing some BOINC stuff and I messed my CPU up after about a week CPU still worked but became very unstable unless I ran at stock frequency and Hyper Threading off Not sure if it answers the question but I think voltage in this instance was the problem
Comment from : Jim Flagg

cpu profits are a small portion of Intel
Comment from : Jay Hartbarger

Just say buy at your own risk lol
Comment from : Issac E Howard Jr

Watch your videos a lot and i love them, but i think you are trying cover your back with comments on youtube too much You have started to go into hypotheticals ever so slightly too much It does take away from it a bit Peace
Comment from : Craig

why dont you guys finally try to kill a CPU with OC and OVall this talking for years but strange that no one ever sees a dead CPU
Comment from : melangkoh

a note for the buying second hand mining gpu part, purchased a gtx 1080 gaming x was sold as a ex gaming card not a mining one, i only purchased it as it still had 2 year warranty left, but the order information i was given was to low resolution to be used at msi he refused to give me a high quality one, i did more research on the dude turned out he was selling loads of these cards 3 days after he posted mine and was selling mining rigs the testing seemed to show memory errors on the card and msi confirmed the fault saying my testing was very good and i should return it to the sell and ask for a refund he refused to deal with me so i used paypal for the refund and sent him back his unusable card i am not saying do not buy mining card/second hand gaming cards just beaware i regularly buy secondhand hardware just be careful and use buyer protection on paypal
Comment from : infinitiy11