How to Zero your Rifle: Why we use 5 round Groups

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1:20 would that down time when looking at the first 3 shots have effected the poi by the barrel cooling a bit?
Comment from : mikeyb byekim

When zeroing,does the continued use ammo need to be the same as when zeroed, like grain weight and power load? And/or the same brand ammo too?
Comment from : mikeyb byekim

Until they have the fundamental down to shoot a 1 inch group at 25m don’t touch the sights There are so many things that they could be doing wrong that group could have came out of a rifle that is actually zeroed
Comment from : Charles McKinley

From that I suppose that techniques that rely on wind and corolis calculations are next to useless, but when we can't afford the luxury of shooting?
Comment from : Silva Dos Santos

You only need one round to zero Shoot, adjust sights, done Send a second one if you want to confirmbrbrSeriously though, the Army standard is 5 round groups, since 2016 (the new Training Circular) The problem is that so many old timers refuse to accept the new standard, or have no idea that there is a new TC, and that old FM needs to be thrown in the trash
Comment from : r k

Dropping a little logic on us knuckle draggers Thanks from the peanut gallery
Comment from : Barry Smith

Awesome video Keep the great info coming !
Comment from : Guy Fawkes

Straightforward Good stuff
Comment from : Ross G

Full Spectrum Dominance-Survival of the Wisest

I love you, just not that much… Lots of views on this video I guess you’ll need more short videos to manipulate the algorithm? Strength & honor
Comment from : Full Spectrum Dominance-Survival of the Wisest

Another outstanding video Short and sweet with no fluff
Comment from : Doc Snowman

Brother the Army has been using 5 rounds since I have joined in 2009 I really like the way you find the center with the additional rounds
Comment from : Reign Six

Hi I'm a new subscriber my husband has been watching for a while I'm new to all this tactical things Could you tell me what would be some of the best videos to watch to get me caught up Thank you and great video
Comment from : Meloni Sosler

I always shoot 5 round groups My Remington/GAPrecision 308 is probably capable of shooting better than me But my shaky old self can just about cover my 5 round 100yd group with a dimeall day long
Comment from : Lynn Cotton Dr

5 shots make more sense Wish the military used that strategy
Comment from : Rodney Montague

Outstanding!
Comment from : Quality Guru

It always puzzled me why the military taught 3 round shots for sight alignment Shooting five rounds makes perfect sense When training new shooters, I always made them load 4 mags with five rounds in each I advised them to shoot the mag dry with out peeping at the target after each shot This usually gave a better shot group that was much easier to adjust in less time
Comment from : Clark Abrpi

Always extremely helpful
Comment from : Michael Carter

Personally, I built a 22lr upper I put the utg irons on it What I like to do is let fellows put that on their lower and see what their groups look like IMO it's way more important to have good shooting techniques ie breathing, trigger control, good ergonomics before you zero a gun BTW I'm more of a hunter than a tactical shooter but probably not a bad idea to be proficient at both
Comment from : John Stacy

I would like to see technics on reloading rifle and/or handgun in different positions Military training, laying prone, we got taught to roll to your side (that was some years ago Not sure it it's still taught) In my current line of work, I've never seen anyone reload that way unless they were military You can see the person awkwardly trying to reload, in prone, if it's not something they are used to doing already Also thanks for the content It's greatly needed in these tough times
Comment from : aharris87

Used to be an instructor at the BZOrange used only 3 shots
Comment from : STRAIT JACKET

Might not believe this but the Army has atleast changed to 5 round groups
Comment from : Jarrod Maxwell

The more data, the better If you have the time and the patience to shoot a round or two, let the barrel cool a bit, shoot a couple three, cool a bit, and repeat- I would say to go ahead and shoot 10, 20, whole magazine, whatever I'd rather zero to the chunk of missing target and KNOW that the vast majority of my shots go there than to have to hoodoo voodoo "which of these are fliers?"brbrEstablish a GOOD zero Also know what your barrel does when it gets nice and toasty If the zero holds but groups open up, you should know that Most importantly if you get a couple of inches shift, know which direction and the magnitude That is the difference in hitting a target or not once a little bit of range and heat enters the equation A simple "favor left and hold low I've been through a few magazines" could be life saving
Comment from : Matt Fleming

Thank you sir I got three new rifles that need zeroed so this came out at a good time brWhen you zero an ak, do you have that fancy little tool or do you just use a spent shell casing for the front post?
Comment from : RockyMountainWest

The Army uses 5 rounds for grouping We have been doing it for 2 years now
Comment from : Morgan

That makes sense
Comment from : Kenneth Spence Ministries

Thanks for the info on 5 founds , Good info will do next time
Comment from : MtMan146

I reload my ammo 5 shot groups for me to find the best load
Comment from : OCD Outdoors

Old school tactical rifleman vibe in this video
Comment from : Matthew Bunn

Great advice! I have been doing 3 Gonna do 5 now
Comment from : SquidGunman

After shooting 5 rounds What do I do? How do I adjust the sight? In what way? And what does the grouping mean?
Comment from : Paul Moore-Zwinak

Man I just wanna mag dump🥲😭
Comment from : CB -Life Broker

This is obviously a math problem Anyone want to bet on whether this happens to be the best method of zeroing with fewest shots?
Comment from : m falcy

Yeah, if a shooter can hold a dime (or even a nickle) group at 25m, three rounds is fine But that's not the guy who generally needs coaching to get his rifle dialed in brbrWhich is why it's asinine for the Army to use 3 round groups in BRM - the kid in BRM probably isn't holding a dime at 25, and he's the guy who needs the most help
Comment from : geodkyt

Yep he is correctbrKeepemcoming
Comment from : David Findley

3 or 5??Why should it really matter?🤔
Comment from : Logan Turner

That makes so much sense! Thank you — much appreciated…
Comment from : Dan OHanlon

Real men shoot 5rd groups Thanks for educating the noobs
Comment from : zpduff01

I did search your channel before asking the following question, what kind of shooting glasses do you use please?
Comment from : ed

Could be that target swaying back and forth in the wind
Comment from : Ray Gonzales

Great video off to the range this weekend to confirm zero
Comment from : Manny M

What the fuck, if that is your shot group you suck Btw, the new ARMY standard is 5 shots I'm afraid, most will be wasting 2 more rounds My 3 rounds are usually touching or at least in the size of a quarter (yes I'm old and don't shoot often) but I digress If my shot group looked like this or one of my trainees they need to go back to the fundamentals of brm A lot of this can be done without firing a shot
Comment from : Michael Sparks

With 2021 ammo prices I zero with no ammo!
Comment from : P Clodius

You can zero any optical sight with 2 bullets and a benchthe rest is up to you
Comment from : Lyle Clark

25m for 300m zero is good👍, I’ve used 36yard for a 250yd zero here lately, and I’m liking the results a lot And the 5 round groups puts the seal on things Unless you’ve got a machine vise for a cheek well, you going to move a little, and we all know how important “Cheek well hold” is And I as taught by some of best on Paris Island, my whole training series qualified first time threw ( Series 3036, grad 9May1977), my platoon 3037, had the top 3 qualifiers Back in the day of good olé Iron SightsbrGod Speed, and God Bless the USA 🇺🇸,,,,,,,brSemper Fi,,,
Comment from : KeloRomeoDelta

Good stuff guys keep it going 👍
Comment from : upstate NY Preparedness and survival

When I was a DS, I used to watch the expended brass land, and that told the whole story :)
Comment from : Cheap Ole Gun Guy

A shooter should be able to group three shot from any weapon if he can shot
Comment from : Bret Gumpert

9 hole review
Comment from : calholli

Excellent idea!!!
Comment from : Artie Broadway

The only BAD thing about videos like this is even the bad guys can learn to shoot good 🤬🤬
Comment from : Brad Walker

It's also possible to jerk 5 shots, why not shoot a 10 round group and be really sure Big army does it to save ammo and not take forever and a day Makes sense that the more specialized a unit is the more precise they would want their zero
Comment from : Cory Carlson

Thanks Karl! Much appreciated I don’t like wasting ammo unintentionally! Lol
Comment from : Mr FNH

I was hoping to see the adjustment and another five shot followup group to see how well it worked
Comment from : Tommy TwoGun

I just had this happen yesterday on my new fighting rifle I switched to 5 shot groups when I overcompensated and put myself further off a good group
Comment from : dyrinn45

You know I LOVE your old T1G videos so I’m not complaining but what happened to the Angery American survival video for this week?
Comment from : Susan Britcher

Totally makes sense, thanks for the great info
Comment from : leif leblanc

Wish you would of told me that back in the 90s
Comment from : Monk John

That is solid information that I can use Thank you
Comment from : Clayton King

Great tip!
Comment from : Matt Graunke

Thats awesome thank u for sharing that info
Comment from : Triplet AirGunner

Great video I have chased a zero myself Thanks for the info
Comment from : David Medina

Another great video
Comment from : Jeff Richards

Thank youI understand this clearly
Comment from : Michael Schaefer

Thanks for the explanation along with the demo
Comment from : Jim Glendening

Nice show and tell there TR I have an idea show them the dry fire washer ⚙️ drill, balance ⚖️ a washer on the the barrel 🔫 to show them finger 👉 trigger control and breathing🧘‍♂️and if they drop the washer they drop for 25 push up 💪 😂 they going to Learn quick I did back in the days of ol ft Sill 😂👍👌✌️🔫🪖🇺🇸
Comment from : Rob

With good sights you can zero in 3, I’ve always liked to shoot groups of 5 checking/testing accuracy With enough rounds down the tube you can usually call a pulled release before you even check the target… Why 5? I’d suppose because a box of 20 lets me run 4 groups each time
Comment from : Waggtech

Great quick shooting tip! Thanks again for sharing your knowledge!!🤜🤛🦅🦅🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸
Comment from : American Patriot

pulled 2 or was it all 3 ?
Comment from : gray man

Great info!!
Comment from : Crazy Dave

Good information thanks Karl
Comment from : Gary Patterson

This is good to know cuz me 4 moa aimpoint is hard to zero because the dot is so big vs my other 1 moa trijicon Which is pin point Good vid Mr Erickson
Comment from : the donuteater

Great tip!
Comment from : Mike Cuntala

Like to see rifle and/or pistol set up for home defense use Great video today
Comment from : Bombs Away

This explains a lot Karl thank you
Comment from : Sarah Showalter

Would love to see you do a review of a Shadow Systems DR920 Claims glock reliability but in a "race gun" Karl could put that to the test
Comment from : Bo Spurlock

Good info “Possible to jerk bullets” but also possible optic or mount failure
Comment from : Wingman

Great as always
Comment from : ShooterMedic

Rest the gun, shoot 5, without moving rifle adjust to center of group
Comment from : C B

I spent my Army career doing just what you talked about (3 round shot groups) and I wish we would have done what you showed in your video It would have saved me all the frustration trying to get my soldier's weapons zeroed Thanks
Comment from : David Arrand

Great video Karl I needed this knowledge
Comment from : Brandon

Keep feeding our heads with this great intel Karl Carry On!!!! PS Tell Chad I want to order more TR shirts but wanted to see if a reverse American flag can be added to the right sleeve?
Comment from : Prepper101

Thnxs 🇺🇸
Comment from : Concrete Cowboy

Very good info as always!
Comment from : A A

It worked for me
Comment from : jocrpnter

Excellent point I was using 6 rounds but I think that's from the trained 3 round groups
Comment from : The Settlemonster

Thanks guys! Excellent content
Comment from : Ram Galvan

I prefer to shoot 6 round groups for zeroing, but was always taught that zeroing should be done with 3 to 12 rounds-- I just zeroed a brand new FAL in 12 rounds (2 groups) just the other day Great stuff right here brother, on point
Comment from : DJ The Metalhead Mercenary