Are HID Grow Lights Obsolete?

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It's funny how every large professional grow is a mix of CMH and HPS lights Having said that, I just bought a gavita LED the 2400e to check it out
Comment from : William Wonder

Heat cames good in winter , leds could be very cold in a cold winter , ,Led are very good in summer,use what yuo can get for the right moment
Comment from : no way

hids especially cmh produce way better buds vs leds
Comment from : Bob Knight

I use leds now, way better for growing most vegetables, fruits and flowers, HID ran my bill up like crazy
Comment from : Alejandro Alcala

Ive built and bought newest tech leds something like 20k$ now, and i still think 5500-6500k old non ceramic metal halide is the beast in veg
Comment from : Seppo Taalasmaa

I’ve been growing for 15 years and I used LEDs for the past 5 runs and I’m happy with everything about them but the smoke itself
Comment from : Sergio Granados

U guys knocked it out the park⚾️🏌🏻
Comment from : Carlos Rizo

I would argue that spread is a benefit in a multi light situation
Comment from : JJ

Nothing beats the massive growth of HIDbrBut most growers are happy with the usual sized marble buds and mega cropping brI miss the old days of football size colas
Comment from : kydrythm

Gavida?
Comment from : Delmonte Man say yes

Are you fucking high?! Led can blow caulks HPS for life
Comment from : dawie

Led all day
Comment from : John Gavin

High intensity lights heat can be useful in colder climates
Comment from : Jeffrey Bell

HPS forever
Comment from : Генадий

Hid grow lights should only be used to vege
Comment from : Gio

Love my mh and hps
Comment from : Scot Sanders

You can grow fine flowers using only MH Some people used to swear by it so I do not have a clue what you are talking about!!!!??? How come there is 1 milloion channels on weed now and people don't seem to know what they're talking about???? Clearly absolute ideal situation would be an hps to help with that natural style transpiration, supplemented by led's for efficiency Funny how no one seems to be doing that Been doing that the last 10 years and results speak for themself Probably because everyone's busy selling their brand as the answer to everyones problems
Comment from : Rhize

I love my 600watt hps adujta shade i get 16 grams per watt
Comment from : bigredinfinity

what ever happened to plasma grow lights?
Comment from : Xan User

The yield from 1 4x4 area, using HPS, will out yield a 10x10 room using the best LED That's my experience, with my genetics anyway LEDs are now pulling about the same wattage from the wall as well In colder regions, it's going to cost more to heat a room, than cool it For $1200 for a quality LED is rediculous!
Comment from : Kid Dynamite

I still haven’t made the switch to LED, and their definitely far from garbage Specially with the right unit and bulb u can get some awesome results I’m not knocking LED at all I plan on making the switch eventually And of course they do run hot so proper ventilation is a must :) honestly I think everyone should use what works best for them and their current situation and set up No 2 growers are the same and this goes the same for their gardens If it’s working for u than don’t let anyone tell u otherwise
Comment from : Stoner Mike

why all big grow companies use hid instead of led?
Comment from : Dave Teabag

No hot spots with DE HPS NONE
Comment from : white Owl

I don’t give a fig who uses what I myself use 1000wt DE HPS 23 years growing And there is no problems
Comment from : white Owl

I prefer hid grow lights I have T5, HPS, and LED HID prevents me from needing to heat my large grow room in winterwhich is the only time I use grow lights Also the light energy has a longer rangeatleast according to my lux meter Which allows me to just put 4 1k watt hoods in a 10x14 grow shed and I am able to produce enough light to maintain the plants for the 2 months they go in the shed
Comment from : すし

Depends on environment
Comment from : Ryan Magoon

Can metal halide bulbs burn wood? I wonder if incandescent can burn wood as well
Comment from : Loudspeaker Tests & More By Aidan Shane Wade

Tried my first led after growing consistently with my mh and hps since 2008 All it did was put spots on my leaves and slightly yellow them out The growth was so much slower, less lush green, and less fuller of a plant When I put the plants under the mh's They did a 180 turnaround Looked like George Cervantes himself started growing them Never even think about trying them again
Comment from : Kevin Rivard

Nothing like a good ol mag ballast Cheap to buy and cheap to replace bulb every year Also reliable and repairable
Comment from : C L

Pretty sure most of people defending LEDS like fan boys have not tried double ended LECs brbrI´ve been using both new Lumatek LEDS (29) and Lumatek double ended LECSbrbrDuring the summer LEDS are better and during the winter LECS are better That simple brbrWhy? No A/C during the summer and no heating during the winter!
Comment from : Salo Vila

Lexs comment on unstable electricity frying led is completely invalid If anything it would damage the hid fixture
Comment from : Fabian

Yo, both of You look mucho alike weird
Comment from : Sexy maderfaker

🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥
Comment from : The High Demand Club

Why can't led put out the same spectrum as a hpsif you don't ask you don't know
Comment from : Andy Crawford

It's worth clarifying that a light's efficiency and how much heat it generates are two ways of saying the same thingbrAn electric appliance of any kind, including any type of electric light, can be considered a 100 efficient electric heater That's because all of the electricity consumed by the appliance ends up as heat energy in the system (in this case the "system" being the grow room); the question is how much of that energy is first emitted as photons in the wavelengths we need for growing plants brTo put it another way, if we have a HID light and an LED light that each consume 100 Watts, they both will produce exactly the same amount of heat energy over the course of one hour (360,000 joules) An LED emits a greater share of that energy in the form of light, which makes it a more efficient technology brThis may seem like a fine point, but I think it's important to understand that efficiency is a measure of excess heat brI really enjoy your Garden Talk Podcast and other vids Thanks for making them and conveying such a wealth of knowledge
Comment from : Michael Burr

Im still using hid but i also use leds but only in med veg
Comment from : Bkeast Smith

And that guy on the left is totally not a seasoned grower a metal halide can flower , it's best to finish with it and mimic fall than finish with far red atleast Bruce higbee educated half of this chat but guy on left nahhh later
Comment from : tchef2525

Weed myths debunked certain days pollinating day silverdine solution for changing female to produce male pollen sacks for feminized seeds making
Comment from : MR-puffnstuff

Used HID for years, switched to LED, honestly not seeing much of a difference, still get nice dense, sticky as hell terped out buds, just need to know what your doing
Comment from : Maty Ice

With prices in Europe for electricity they would cost me triple to operate for the same results with LEDs
Comment from : danilko paskudnik

the first MH and HPS had different ballasts, the bulbs were not interchangeable like they are now
Comment from : Larry Soss

DE HID fixtures are awesome I'm not spending 3 x more for a light that has to be replaced after 50k hours when I can just replace the HPS bulb lol
Comment from : Phillip Jacobs

All my HLG put out heat compare to HPS My vegetative health is far superior under metal halide I get it, I understand it's the new thing and everybody's jumping on the bandwagon But my scorpion Diablo is collecting dust in the corner after using it for four runs I won't use it again I got better flower and phenotypical expression with my MH/HPS I guess I'm just an old dinosaur The problem I'm seeing is that all these different LED lights are different Spectrums and when I hang my ushio 600 up it's the same no matter what strain Now if I give my Santa Cruz blue dream cutting to 10 different people running all different LEDs it's going to come out differently I guess to clarify if everyone is using that same LED fixture It would solve that I hope that makes sense You need to build your room for LED and it's less forgiving when it isn't dialed in IMO
Comment from : Blackbriar518

HID gets too hot
Comment from : Kirk McGill

I’m balls deep on LEDs now…no turning back…they’re just more efficient anyway
Comment from : Jason Chappell

Great for the winter months here in New England they'll never be obsolete
Comment from : Adam Peckham

Yes LEDs are awful for flower They don't have the IR to induce flowering properly I can show grow after grow that even the best LED grows will not touch It also costs a lot more to heat a room than cool That picture was taken under a 600w, but I'll equal that using 250w The top LEDs are pulling over 700 watts from the wall
Comment from : Kid Dynamite

I have to disagree with Lex on using MH during flower They can be beneficial in conjuntion with HPS adding some blue to the overall spectrum However, LED are the way to go imo @hlg for the win!
Comment from : Asyouwish 114

i was switching to HPS for flower from MH, but after listening to Bruce Bugbee it seems it might be better to use MH the whole way through The only benefit from switching to HPS seems to be its slightly more efficient, but i like the added blue in flower
Comment from : Astral

I've literally only switched to led this past year or so I do think hps are great for the flowering phase if u can't afford at top led but controlling the temp has been easier having said that I do have to use a heater on cold days lol
Comment from : GMAN LIMITED Anderson-0driscoll

Cheap and nasty hid still outperforming LEDs in my book , climate is a big factor if you're in a cold area you need to add heat with LEDs hid vs led is like coal vs solar Both work, coal sucks for the environment but it's reliable Solar is expensive high tech and doesn't rely on grid but needs rare earth minerals in it's components
Comment from : Keep it Simple Hydro

I think replacing hps with led in bloom is almost a no brainer, but from the migro video I watched on this channel, it seems like LEDs don't deliver an enough blue to best the MH in veg
Comment from : 55tdt

I use a mix of white leds and hpsbrHps helps keep the room temps good for me as I am in Alberta and it gets cold in winterbrI also use growers choice tube hoods over the one my local hydro shop recommended as it doesn't have such a good foot print
Comment from : Larry Lynn

LED's have changed the game Metal Halides are good bulbs They got the job done back when I used them But heat was always an issue Now with electricity rates being so high, LED's are the way forward for most growers For those just getting into home gardening, LED's are the most bang for your buck these days
Comment from : jppagetoo

HPS blow away LEDs I've proven it time after time after time
Comment from : Kid Dynamite

Any suggestions on a LED for a 4x4 tent?
Comment from : BeeRye

I consistently find better quality buds with LEDs I was against LEDs but couldn't argue with my results
Comment from : Kevin Isbell

240 w led for 600 hidbrcan you tell us little bit more,which led is it?
Comment from : Franjo Penezic

chris, do you know the product : halo harpin?
Comment from : peppertime1

Has anyone done this? Was it worth it?brLED the whole way until the last 2 weeks pull the LED and use HPS or HID or even just add it in with the LED Any thoughts
Comment from : DontInterruptMeCunt

The best weed I smoke today is grown from HID LED is like smoking mid grade
Comment from : Tradez

I get better results with HID I don’t care about electricity costs
Comment from : Tradez

If in cold climate hid rule leds can't warm your area
Comment from : Ray Hare

Leds have a gd light but cause extreme calcium demand which can surprise some
Comment from : Ray Hare

CMH RULE DUDE
Comment from : Ray Hare

HID's are good to use in winter they stop your room getting cold that stops the root system taking up nutrients when the temperature gets to low
Comment from : NO Expectations

The answer to the title of this video is NO it's tried and truebr These LEDs are also good with a slight feel of a gimmick but I do think LEDs are more for hobbyists, not professionals because they don't carry the light penetration that is necessary for the canopies
Comment from : SOJUSLIIM TDFLOCK

HID have much better penetration
Comment from : John Doe

NO
Comment from : WHITE DEVIL CANNABIS CO

The beautiful thing about LEDs is that they’ll constantly get better Better diodes, better drivers, customizable spectrums LEDs like raging kush can toggle between spectrums for veg/flower and IR
Comment from : xd ae

I'm actually using LED lights in my tent and im growing some really mice flower flower are very dense and solid hard I want to try CMH lights next with LED and compare the the two and see what results I'll get
Comment from : Pack Gang

I love LEDs! But the best bud I ever grew was with 1000w dual-spectrum bulbs! 600w HPS and 400w MH all in one bulb! Only problem is the heat and the electrical bill!!!
Comment from : kcbennie

hids are great for starting fires in your attic
Comment from : eggs panda

Always check your Leaf Temps when growing with LEDs! HID/HPS will give you good heat coming down onto your leafs/plants LEDs not really So usually running LEDs you wanna raise up your temps and make sure your leafs temps are on good Veg 80-83 same for early flower Later in flower 75- 80
Comment from : Kush CoBain

Using 18/6 for veg and 12/12 for flowering increases electrical costs and it's plain a bad idea using this lighting cycle
Comment from : JQ

Do you need Cal Mag for LED's?
Comment from : Brice Griggs

electrical inefficiency IS heatbrso is mechanical
Comment from : Kulahptik

I had my Magnetic Dimlux ballasts for years paired with Big Kahuna air cooled hoods Only problem is when moved to city it messed with peoples cable lol In the country no problem Actually I liked the flower development from Metal Halide Well using in last few weeks of flowerTho eventually switched to Hortlilux HPS conversation, But switched to LEDs 13 years ago and never looked back
Comment from : Tim Page

People who live in cold climates may prefer something that emits more heat You can always supplement with something like 50w led strips or bulbs
Comment from : timm3r

I wonder, if you live some place there is very hot, why dont you grow outdoors? I live in Denmark, we have actually at best 4 Sunny days a year We are forced to grow indoor But i would love to be able to grow Outdoor, i mean no bill, no tent, no smell no noice Why dont you???
Comment from : Nightmer

4k CMH lights are still very effective, reliable and cost competitive veg solution as the price point keeps going down due to the cost of a veg specific LEDs The spectrum a relatively low heat output is still a very popular commercial solution for vegging
Comment from : michael casey

I think it depends on what you're trying to do HID is mature, proven technology If you live someplace cold it makes no sense to buy a heater and an LED setup when HIDs with proper ventilation can do bothbrbrYou can 100 grow excellent plants with HID and LED
Comment from : Scott Free

My only problem with LED grow lights is that individual LED's burn out I can replace a bulb that burned out With LED you either DYI repair it voiding any warranty or send the whole unit in for repairs No one ever seem to bring that up either
Comment from : Playingwith3D